# Describe Objects Window not allowing toggle of package spec/body

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**Category:** Toad for Oracle & DevOps Toolkit\
**Created:** [January 23, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/describe-objects-window-not-allowing-toggle-of-package-spec-body/61532 "2026-01-23T20:42:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![sdstuber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@sdstuber](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/sdstuber)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/describe-objects-window-not-allowing-toggle-of-package-spec-body/61532/1 "2026-01-23T20:42:32Z")

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If I click on a package name and press F4 it will bring up the package spec, but often I want to view the package body. There used to be a toggle button to view spec or body, but that is no longer present.

I do have permission to read the source (either as DBA user or as the package owner).

It would be ok if the describe window opened 2 tabs, one for spec and one for the body, or if it was one tab with a toggle.

If I click on a package procedure then the package body will be opened but then I don’t get to toggle to the spec.

I’m using 25.3.346.7343

I don’t recall seeing this behavior in the prior release so I assume it’s something new.  
Is this a bug, a new intended features, or a setting I need to change?

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**Author:** ![JohnDorlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/johndorlon/32/9997_2.png) [@JohnDorlon](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/JohnDorlon)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/describe-objects-window-not-allowing-toggle-of-package-spec-body/61532/2 "2026-01-23T21:56:58Z")

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Hi Sean,

Hm, I still see the toggle button. For me, the only time it disappears is when you click it, the package has no body, it gives you a message to that effect...then the button goes away for that package. But if I F4 that package again, the button returns.

We do have a setting in the main Toad options window to show both (the default setting is unchecked)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/3X/5/9/5964a1ce87ac5b615d593b2368730317e9eee95b.png)

If that is checked, they both appear in the same tab and you have nodes for spec and body, as shown here. And...in that case, the "Toggle" button goes away.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/3X/9/c/9c68c392492bfb284726f8850afc636b8dff3d6a.png)

Maybe you have that option checked, but you have a lot of nodes under the spec, so the body is pushed way down?

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**Author:** ![sdstuber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@sdstuber](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/sdstuber)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/describe-objects-window-not-allowing-toggle-of-package-spec-body/61532/3 "2026-01-28T18:58:22Z")

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thank you - I did not have the “show spec and body” option checked, but when I checked it, did a describe, closed it, unchecked the option, and then did another describe with F4 then the toggle button returned.

The toggle button has remained available since then.

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**Author:** ![JohnDorlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/johndorlon/32/9997_2.png) [@JohnDorlon](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/JohnDorlon)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/describe-objects-window-not-allowing-toggle-of-package-spec-body/61532/4 "2026-01-28T19:19:12Z")

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Interesting. I took at look at the code and didn't see anything suspicious. Please let me know if the problem returns.