# formatter question

**URL:** <https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064>\
**Category:** Toad for Oracle & DevOps Toolkit\
**Created:** [December 15, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064 "2009-12-15T14:11:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![wpenfoldithaca.edu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/35a633/32.png) [@wpenfoldithaca.edu](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/wpenfoldithaca.edu)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/1 "2009-12-15T14:11:15Z")

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I have the same package source from 2 software versions saved in a  
folder on my computer and open in the editor so I can compare them. I  
have my toad options set to ‘format when opening a file’, but when I  
compare the files they show many differences because the are not  
formatted the same. I clicked the ‘format code’ icon on both to format  
them. They both appear to format ok, but one formats and one does not.  
I tried changing the code and formatting again…same result. No  
errors, one of them just doesn’t format even though it says it does.  
There is really not much difference between the files. What would cause  
one of them not to format and how can I work around this?

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/2 "2009-12-16T15:41:55Z")

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Wendy,

After you sent me the files I saw that the “bad” file contains variable  
declarations with %TYPE. You’re using QP5 version 5.139. Unfortunately this  
version has issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which sometimes will cause parts of  
the text not to get formatted. Please try to use 5.142, found the latest Toad  
drops if I’m not mistaken. This formats your file most fine.

Sorry about that.

Thanks,

Andre

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/3 "2009-12-17T14:39:15Z")

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Hi Andre, Thanks! I can find just that file on the website and download it?  
When I do Help | Check for updates it says I have the most recent version of  
Toad. Wendy

Andre Vergison wrote:

```
Wendy,

 

After you sent me the files I saw that the “bad” file contains variable
declarations with %TYPE. You’re using QP5 version 5.139. Unfortunately
this version has issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which sometimes will cause
parts of the text not to get formatted. Please try to use 5.142, found the
latest Toad drops if I’m not mistaken. This formats your file most fine.

Sorry about that.

 

Thanks,

Andre
```

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/4 "2009-12-17T15:13:43Z")

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Hi Wendy,

The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad beta. If you’re interested  
in trying it out, go here: [http://www.toadfororacle.com/beta.jspa](http://www.toadfororacle.com/beta.jspa)

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/5 "2009-12-18T08:25:48Z")

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Hi Brad, I’m guessing that means I can’t just download the new QP5 version…?  
I’ll have to install the toad beta and then possibly move the new QP5 version to  
my commercial install? Wendy

Brad Boddicker wrote:

```
Hi Wendy,

 

The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad beta. If you’re
interested in trying it out, go here: http://www.toadforo racle.com/
beta.jspa
```

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/6 "2009-12-18T09:11:57Z")

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There is one annoyance in TOAD 10 concerning the subject.

While in version 9 i was able to hit F4 on the table and then CTRL-C the column  
i needed to use, it now copies the entire row in the clipboard.

The same problem exists if i need just an index or a trigger name.

For example, this is what gets copied to the clipboard for the index:

PLAIN CDREFENTITY\_UQ Y YES 1 CD\_ENTITY\_NAME Asc 1 CLIENT\_ADMIN

while i want only CDREFENTITY\_UQ

Is there an option that controls what is being copied?

Many thanks.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/7 "2009-12-18T09:17:42Z")

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Rt-click, turn off row select.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/8 "2009-12-18T10:01:40Z")

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Thank you, John.

I think “Row Select Off” should a default behavior.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/9 "2009-12-18T10:07:26Z")

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Correct, but be aware that commercial Toad 10 has not been certified with any  
other QP5.dll version other than the one it ships with. It will most likely  
work fine, but if you have any problems, be sure you hold on to the original  
version.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/10 "2009-12-18T12:41:42Z")

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Thanks!

Brad Boddicker wrote:

```
Correct, but be aware that commercial Toad 10 has not been certified with
any other QP5.dll version other than the one it ships with. It will most
likely work fine, but if you have any problems, be sure you hold on to the
original version.
```

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/11 "2009-12-21T02:22:09Z")

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/12 "2009-12-21T07:28:47Z")

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Available in the beta only

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/13 "2009-12-21T08:16:30Z")

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Hi Jeff, I tried downloading the lastest beta and installing it, but the QP5  
version is 5.136.908.31019, Andre says it should be 5.142? Wendy

Jeff Smith wrote:

Available in the beta only

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/14 "2009-12-21T08:31:28Z")

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My copy has the .142 version.

You downloaded the beta, and then also ran the updater in the 2nd link on the  
beta page?

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/15 "2009-12-21T08:48:14Z")

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No, I didn’t run the updater, I’ll try that…

Jeff Smith wrote:

My copy has the .142 version.

You downloaded the beta, and then also ran the updater in the 2nd link on  
the beta page?

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/16 "2009-12-21T09:00:04Z")

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The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people don’t understand).

The installer is done once at the beginning of the beta cycle - and will lay down the very first beta and all the files.

The second download is updated regularly - like once or twice a week - and is just a zip file you unzip into the beta install directory and contains just the files that changed …

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/17 "2009-12-21T11:10:13Z")

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I installed the Beta, but can't get it to run because it says I don't  
have the most recent version of Toad installed, but when I 'check for  
updates', it says I do have the most recent version. My license says I  
have a 'Trial' version...could that be the issue with runnning the beta?

So, I tried copying the QP5.dll to my commercial install directory and  
doing a source compare, but the 2 versions of the package are still not  
being formatted the same. Could it be because one version of the  
database is UTF-8 and the other is not?

Bert Scalzo wrote:

> Message from: bscalzo
> 
> The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people  
> don't understand). The installer is done once at the beginning of the  
> beta cycle - and will lay down the very first beta and all the files.  
> The second download is updated regularly - like once or twice a week -  
> and is just a zip file you unzip into the beta install directory and  
> contains just the files that changed ....
> 
> * * *
> 
> Historical Messages
> 
> Author: Bert Scalzo  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 07:00:04 PST 2009  
> The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people  
> don't understand). The installer is done once at the beginning of the  
> beta cycle - and will lay down the very first beta and all the files.  
> The second download is updated regularly - like once or twice a week -  
> and is just a zip file you unzip into the beta install directory and  
> contains just the files that changed ....  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Jeff Smith  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 06:31:28 PST 2009  
> My copy has the .142 version. You downloaded the beta, and then also  
> ran the updater in the 2nd link on the beta page?  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 06:16:30 PST 2009  
> Hi Jeff, I tried downloading the lastest beta and installing it, but  
> the QP5 version is 5.136.908.31019, Andre says it should be 5.142?  
> Wendy Jeff Smith wrote: Available in the beta only  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Jeff Smith  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 05:28:47 PST 2009  
> Available in the beta only  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Rob Zijlstra  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 00:22:09 PST 2009
> 
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 10:41:42 PST 2009  
> Thanks! Brad Boddicker wrote: Correct, but be aware that commercial  
> Toad 10 has not been certified with any other QP5.dll version other  
> than the one it ships with. It will most likely work fine, but if you  
> have any problems, be sure you hold on to the original version.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Brad Boddicker  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 08:07:26 PST 2009  
> Correct, but be aware that commercial Toad 10 has not been certified  
> with any other QP5.dll version other than the one it ships with. It  
> will most likely work fine, but if you have any problems, be sure you  
> hold on to the original version.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: [George.Meltser@aigfpc.com](mailto:George.Meltser@aigfpc.com)  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 08:01:40 PST 2009  
> Thank you, John. I think "Row Select Off" should a default behavior.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: John Dorlon  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 07:17:42 PST 2009  
> Rt-click, turn off row select.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: [George.Meltser@aigfpc.com](mailto:George.Meltser@aigfpc.com)  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 07:11:57 PST 2009  
> There is one annoyance in TOAD 10 concerning the subject. While in  
> version 9 i was able to hit F4 on the table and then CTRL-C the column  
> i needed to use, it now copies the entire row in the clipboard. The  
> same problem exists if i need just an index or a trigger name. For  
> example, this is what gets copied to the clipboard for the index:  
> PLAIN CDREFENTITY\_UQ Y YES 1 CD\_ENTITY\_NAME Asc 1 CLIENT\_ADMIN while i  
> want only CDREFENTITY\_UQ Is there an option that controls what is  
> being copied? Many thanks.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 06:25:48 PST 2009  
> Hi Brad, I'm guessing that means I can't just download the new QP5  
> version...? I'll have to install the toad beta and then possibly move  
> the new QP5 version to my commercial install? Wendy Brad Boddicker  
> wrote: Hi Wendy, The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad  
> beta. If you?re interested in trying it out, go here:  
> [http://www.toadforo](http://www.toadforo) [racle.com/](http://racle.com/) beta.jspa  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Brad Boddicker  
> Date: Thu Dec 17 13:13:43 PST 2009  
> Hi Wendy, The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad beta. If  
> you?re interested in trying it out, go here:  
> [http://www.toadfororacle.com/beta.jspa](http://www.toadfororacle.com/beta.jspa)  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Thu Dec 17 12:39:15 PST 2009  
> Hi Andre, Thanks! I can find just that file on the website and  
> download it? When I do Help | Check for updates it says I have the  
> most recent version of Toad. Wendy Andre Vergison wrote: Wendy,  
> After you sent me the files I saw that the ?bad? file contains  
> variable declarations with %TYPE. You?re using QP5 version 5.139.  
> Unfortunately this version has issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which  
> sometimes will cause parts of the text not to get formatted. Please  
> try to use 5.142, found the latest Toad drops if I?m not mistaken.  
> This formats your file most fine. Sorry about that. Thanks, Andre  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Andre Vergison  
> Date: Wed Dec 16 13:41:55 PST 2009  
> Wendy, After you sent me the files I saw that the ?bad? file contains  
> variable declarations with %TYPE. You?re using QP5 version 5.139.  
> Unfortunately this version has issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which  
> sometimes will cause parts of the text not to get formatted. Please  
> try to use 5.142, found the latest Toad drops if I?m not mistaken.  
> This formats your file most fine. Sorry about that. Thanks, Andre  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Tue Dec 15 12:11:15 PST 2009  
> I have the same package source from 2 software versions saved in a  
> folder on my computer and open in the editor so I can compare them. I  
> have my toad options set to 'format when opening a file', but when I  
> compare the files they show many differences because the are not  
> formatted the same. I clicked the 'format code' icon on both to format  
> them. They both appear to format ok, but one formats and one does not.  
> I tried changing the code and formatting again...same result. No  
> errors, one of them just doesn't format even though it says it does.  
> There is really not much difference between the files. What would  
> cause one of them not to format and how can I work around this?  
> \_\_
> 
> * * *

I installed the Beta, but can't get it to run because it says I don't have the  
most recent version of Toad installed, but when I 'check for updates', it says I  
do have the most recent version. My license says I have a 'Trial'  
version...could that be the issue with runnning the beta?

So, I tried copying the QP5.dll to my commercial install directory and doing a  
source compare, but the 2 versions of the package are still not being formatted  
the same. Could it be because one version of the database is UTF-8 and the  
other is not?

Bert Scalzo wrote:

```
Message from: bscalzo

```

The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people don't  
understand). The installer is done once at the beginning of the beta cycle -  
and will lay down the very first beta and all the files. The second download  
is updated regularly - like once or twice a week - and is just a zip file  
you unzip into the beta install directory and contains just the files that  
changed ....

```
_____________________  __________________

Historical Messages

```

Author: Bert Scalzo  
Date: Mon Dec 21 07:00:04 PST 2009  
The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people don't  
understand). The installer is done once at the beginning of the beta cycle -  
and will lay down the very first beta and all the files. The second download  
is updated regularly - like once or twice a week - and is just a zip file  
you unzip into the beta install directory and contains just the files that  
changed ....  
\_\_

```
Author: Jeff Smith
Date: Mon Dec 21 06:31:28 PST 2009
My copy has the .142 version. You downloaded the beta, and then also ran the
updater in the 2nd link on the beta page?
__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Mon Dec 21 06:16:30 PST 2009
Hi Jeff, I tried downloading the lastest beta and installing it, but the QP5
version is 5.136.908.31019, Andre says it should be 5.142? Wendy Jeff Smith
wrote: Available in the beta only
__

Author: Jeff Smith
Date: Mon Dec 21 05:28:47 PST 2009
Available in the beta only
__

Author: Rob Zijlstra
Date: Mon Dec 21 00:22:09 PST 2009

__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Fri Dec 18 10:41:42 PST 2009
Thanks! Brad Boddicker wrote: Correct, but be aware that commercial Toad
10 has not been certified with any other QP5.dll version other than the one
it ships with. It will most likely work fine, but if you have any
problems, be sure you hold on to the original version.  
__

Author: Brad Boddicker
Date: Fri Dec 18 08:07:26 PST 2009
Correct, but be aware that commercial Toad 10 has not been certified with
any other QP5.dll version other than the one it ships with. It will most
likely work fine, but if you have any problems, be sure you hold on to the
original version.
__

Author: George.Meltser@ aigfpc.com
Date: Fri Dec 18 08:01:40 PST 2009
Thank you, John. I think "Row Select Off" should a default behavior.
__

Author: John Dorlon
Date: Fri Dec 18 07:17:42 PST 2009
Rt-click, turn off row select.
__

Author: George.Meltser@ aigfpc.com
Date: Fri Dec 18 07:11:57 PST 2009
There is one annoyance in TOAD 10 concerning the subject. While in version 9
i was able to hit F4 on the table and then CTRL-C the column i needed to
use, it now copies the entire row in the clipboard. The same problem exists
if i need just an index or a trigger name. For example, this is what gets
copied to the clipboard for the index: PLAIN CDREFENTITY_ UQ Y YES 1
CD_ENTITY_NAME Asc 1 CLIENT_ADMIN while i want only CDREFENTITY_ UQ Is there
an option that controls what is being copied? Many thanks.
__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Fri Dec 18 06:25:48 PST 2009
Hi Brad, I'm guessing that means I can't just download the new QP5
version...? I'll have to install the toad beta and then possibly move the
new QP5 version to my commercial install? Wendy Brad Boddicker wrote:  
Hi Wendy, The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad beta. If
you?re interested in trying it out, go here: http://www.toadforo
racle.com/ beta.jspa    
__

Author: Brad Boddicker
Date: Thu Dec 17 13:13:43 PST 2009
Hi Wendy, The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad beta. If you?re
interested in trying it out, go here: http://www.toadforo racle.com/
beta.jspa
__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Thu Dec 17 12:39:15 PST 2009
Hi Andre, Thanks! I can find just that file on the website and download
it? When I do Help | Check for updates it says I have the most recent
version of Toad. Wendy Andre Vergison wrote: Wendy, After you sent
me the files I saw that the ?bad? file contains variable declarations with
%TYPE. You?re using QP5 version 5.139. Unfortunately this version has
issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which sometimes will cause parts of the text
not to get formatted. Please try to use 5.142, found the latest Toad drops
if I?m not mistaken. This formats your file most fine. Sorry about that.  
Thanks, Andre
__

Author: Andre Vergison
Date: Wed Dec 16 13:41:55 PST 2009
Wendy, After you sent me the files I saw that the ?bad? file contains
variable declarations with %TYPE. You?re using QP5 version 5.139.
Unfortunately this version has issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which
sometimes will cause parts of the text not to get formatted. Please try to
use 5.142, found the latest Toad drops if I?m not mistaken. This formats
your file most fine. Sorry about that. Thanks, Andre
__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Tue Dec 15 12:11:15 PST 2009
I have the same package source from 2 software versions saved in a folder on
my computer and open in the editor so I can compare them. I have my toad
options set to 'format when opening a file', but when I compare the files
they show many differences because the are not formatted the same. I clicked
the 'format code' icon on both to format them. They both appear to format
ok, but one formats and one does not. I tried changing the code and
formatting again...same result. No errors, one of them just doesn't format
even though it says it does. There is really not much difference between the
files. What would cause one of them not to format and how can I work around
this?
__
_____________________  __________________

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/formatter-question/9064/18 "2009-12-21T11:10:13Z")

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I installed the Beta, but can't get it to run because it says I don't  
have the most recent version of Toad installed, but when I 'check for  
updates', it says I do have the most recent version. My license says I  
have a 'Trial' version...could that be the issue with runnning the beta?

So, I tried copying the QP5.dll to my commercial install directory and  
doing a source compare, but the 2 versions of the package are still not  
being formatted the same. Could it be because one version of the  
database is UTF-8 and the other is not?

Bert Scalzo wrote:

> Message from: bscalzo
> 
> The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people  
> don't understand). The installer is done once at the beginning of the  
> beta cycle - and will lay down the very first beta and all the files.  
> The second download is updated regularly - like once or twice a week -  
> and is just a zip file you unzip into the beta install directory and  
> contains just the files that changed ....
> 
> * * *
> 
> Historical Messages
> 
> Author: Bert Scalzo  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 07:00:04 PST 2009  
> The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people  
> don't understand). The installer is done once at the beginning of the  
> beta cycle - and will lay down the very first beta and all the files.  
> The second download is updated regularly - like once or twice a week -  
> and is just a zip file you unzip into the beta install directory and  
> contains just the files that changed ....  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Jeff Smith  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 06:31:28 PST 2009  
> My copy has the .142 version. You downloaded the beta, and then also  
> ran the updater in the 2nd link on the beta page?  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 06:16:30 PST 2009  
> Hi Jeff, I tried downloading the lastest beta and installing it, but  
> the QP5 version is 5.136.908.31019, Andre says it should be 5.142?  
> Wendy Jeff Smith wrote: Available in the beta only  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Jeff Smith  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 05:28:47 PST 2009  
> Available in the beta only  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Rob Zijlstra  
> Date: Mon Dec 21 00:22:09 PST 2009
> 
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 10:41:42 PST 2009  
> Thanks! Brad Boddicker wrote: Correct, but be aware that commercial  
> Toad 10 has not been certified with any other QP5.dll version other  
> than the one it ships with. It will most likely work fine, but if you  
> have any problems, be sure you hold on to the original version.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Brad Boddicker  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 08:07:26 PST 2009  
> Correct, but be aware that commercial Toad 10 has not been certified  
> with any other QP5.dll version other than the one it ships with. It  
> will most likely work fine, but if you have any problems, be sure you  
> hold on to the original version.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: [George.Meltser@aigfpc.com](mailto:George.Meltser@aigfpc.com)  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 08:01:40 PST 2009  
> Thank you, John. I think "Row Select Off" should a default behavior.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: John Dorlon  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 07:17:42 PST 2009  
> Rt-click, turn off row select.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: [George.Meltser@aigfpc.com](mailto:George.Meltser@aigfpc.com)  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 07:11:57 PST 2009  
> There is one annoyance in TOAD 10 concerning the subject. While in  
> version 9 i was able to hit F4 on the table and then CTRL-C the column  
> i needed to use, it now copies the entire row in the clipboard. The  
> same problem exists if i need just an index or a trigger name. For  
> example, this is what gets copied to the clipboard for the index:  
> PLAIN CDREFENTITY\_UQ Y YES 1 CD\_ENTITY\_NAME Asc 1 CLIENT\_ADMIN while i  
> want only CDREFENTITY\_UQ Is there an option that controls what is  
> being copied? Many thanks.  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Fri Dec 18 06:25:48 PST 2009  
> Hi Brad, I'm guessing that means I can't just download the new QP5  
> version...? I'll have to install the toad beta and then possibly move  
> the new QP5 version to my commercial install? Wendy Brad Boddicker  
> wrote: Hi Wendy, The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad  
> beta. If you?re interested in trying it out, go here:  
> [http://www.toadforo](http://www.toadforo) [racle.com/](http://racle.com/) beta.jspa  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Brad Boddicker  
> Date: Thu Dec 17 13:13:43 PST 2009  
> Hi Wendy, The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad beta. If  
> you?re interested in trying it out, go here:  
> [http://www.toadfororacle.com/beta.jspa](http://www.toadfororacle.com/beta.jspa)  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Thu Dec 17 12:39:15 PST 2009  
> Hi Andre, Thanks! I can find just that file on the website and  
> download it? When I do Help | Check for updates it says I have the  
> most recent version of Toad. Wendy Andre Vergison wrote: Wendy,  
> After you sent me the files I saw that the ?bad? file contains  
> variable declarations with %TYPE. You?re using QP5 version 5.139.  
> Unfortunately this version has issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which  
> sometimes will cause parts of the text not to get formatted. Please  
> try to use 5.142, found the latest Toad drops if I?m not mistaken.  
> This formats your file most fine. Sorry about that. Thanks, Andre  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: Andre Vergison  
> Date: Wed Dec 16 13:41:55 PST 2009  
> Wendy, After you sent me the files I saw that the ?bad? file contains  
> variable declarations with %TYPE. You?re using QP5 version 5.139.  
> Unfortunately this version has issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which  
> sometimes will cause parts of the text not to get formatted. Please  
> try to use 5.142, found the latest Toad drops if I?m not mistaken.  
> This formats your file most fine. Sorry about that. Thanks, Andre  
> \_\_
> 
> Author: wpenfold  
> Date: Tue Dec 15 12:11:15 PST 2009  
> I have the same package source from 2 software versions saved in a  
> folder on my computer and open in the editor so I can compare them. I  
> have my toad options set to 'format when opening a file', but when I  
> compare the files they show many differences because the are not  
> formatted the same. I clicked the 'format code' icon on both to format  
> them. They both appear to format ok, but one formats and one does not.  
> I tried changing the code and formatting again...same result. No  
> errors, one of them just doesn't format even though it says it does.  
> There is really not much difference between the files. What would  
> cause one of them not to format and how can I work around this?  
> \_\_
> 
> * * *

I installed the Beta, but can't get it to run because it says I don't have the  
most recent version of Toad installed, but when I 'check for updates', it says I  
do have the most recent version. My license says I have a 'Trial'  
version...could that be the issue with runnning the beta?

So, I tried copying the QP5.dll to my commercial install directory and doing a  
source compare, but the 2 versions of the package are still not being formatted  
the same. Could it be because one version of the database is UTF-8 and the  
other is not?

Bert Scalzo wrote:

```
Message from: bscalzo

```

The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people don't  
understand). The installer is done once at the beginning of the beta cycle -  
and will lay down the very first beta and all the files. The second download  
is updated regularly - like once or twice a week - and is just a zip file  
you unzip into the beta install directory and contains just the files that  
changed ....

```
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```

Author: Bert Scalzo  
Date: Mon Dec 21 07:00:04 PST 2009  
The beta has two downloads (as Jeff points out and that many people don't  
understand). The installer is done once at the beginning of the beta cycle -  
and will lay down the very first beta and all the files. The second download  
is updated regularly - like once or twice a week - and is just a zip file  
you unzip into the beta install directory and contains just the files that  
changed ....  
\_\_

```
Author: Jeff Smith
Date: Mon Dec 21 06:31:28 PST 2009
My copy has the .142 version. You downloaded the beta, and then also ran the
updater in the 2nd link on the beta page?
__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Mon Dec 21 06:16:30 PST 2009
Hi Jeff, I tried downloading the lastest beta and installing it, but the QP5
version is 5.136.908.31019, Andre says it should be 5.142? Wendy Jeff Smith
wrote: Available in the beta only
__

Author: Jeff Smith
Date: Mon Dec 21 05:28:47 PST 2009
Available in the beta only
__

Author: Rob Zijlstra
Date: Mon Dec 21 00:22:09 PST 2009

__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Fri Dec 18 10:41:42 PST 2009
Thanks! Brad Boddicker wrote: Correct, but be aware that commercial Toad
10 has not been certified with any other QP5.dll version other than the one
it ships with. It will most likely work fine, but if you have any
problems, be sure you hold on to the original version.  
__

Author: Brad Boddicker
Date: Fri Dec 18 08:07:26 PST 2009
Correct, but be aware that commercial Toad 10 has not been certified with
any other QP5.dll version other than the one it ships with. It will most
likely work fine, but if you have any problems, be sure you hold on to the
original version.
__

Author: George.Meltser@ aigfpc.com
Date: Fri Dec 18 08:01:40 PST 2009
Thank you, John. I think "Row Select Off" should a default behavior.
__

Author: John Dorlon
Date: Fri Dec 18 07:17:42 PST 2009
Rt-click, turn off row select.
__

Author: George.Meltser@ aigfpc.com
Date: Fri Dec 18 07:11:57 PST 2009
There is one annoyance in TOAD 10 concerning the subject. While in version 9
i was able to hit F4 on the table and then CTRL-C the column i needed to
use, it now copies the entire row in the clipboard. The same problem exists
if i need just an index or a trigger name. For example, this is what gets
copied to the clipboard for the index: PLAIN CDREFENTITY_ UQ Y YES 1
CD_ENTITY_NAME Asc 1 CLIENT_ADMIN while i want only CDREFENTITY_ UQ Is there
an option that controls what is being copied? Many thanks.
__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Fri Dec 18 06:25:48 PST 2009
Hi Brad, I'm guessing that means I can't just download the new QP5
version...? I'll have to install the toad beta and then possibly move the
new QP5 version to my commercial install? Wendy Brad Boddicker wrote:  
Hi Wendy, The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad beta. If
you?re interested in trying it out, go here: http://www.toadforo
racle.com/ beta.jspa    
__

Author: Brad Boddicker
Date: Thu Dec 17 13:13:43 PST 2009
Hi Wendy, The version Andre is speaking of is in the Toad beta. If you?re
interested in trying it out, go here: http://www.toadforo racle.com/
beta.jspa
__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Thu Dec 17 12:39:15 PST 2009
Hi Andre, Thanks! I can find just that file on the website and download
it? When I do Help | Check for updates it says I have the most recent
version of Toad. Wendy Andre Vergison wrote: Wendy, After you sent
me the files I saw that the ?bad? file contains variable declarations with
%TYPE. You?re using QP5 version 5.139. Unfortunately this version has
issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which sometimes will cause parts of the text
not to get formatted. Please try to use 5.142, found the latest Toad drops
if I?m not mistaken. This formats your file most fine. Sorry about that.  
Thanks, Andre
__

Author: Andre Vergison
Date: Wed Dec 16 13:41:55 PST 2009
Wendy, After you sent me the files I saw that the ?bad? file contains
variable declarations with %TYPE. You?re using QP5 version 5.139.
Unfortunately this version has issues with %TYPE and %ROWTYPE which
sometimes will cause parts of the text not to get formatted. Please try to
use 5.142, found the latest Toad drops if I?m not mistaken. This formats
your file most fine. Sorry about that. Thanks, Andre
__

Author: wpenfold
Date: Tue Dec 15 12:11:15 PST 2009
I have the same package source from 2 software versions saved in a folder on
my computer and open in the editor so I can compare them. I have my toad
options set to 'format when opening a file', but when I compare the files
they show many differences because the are not formatted the same. I clicked
the 'format code' icon on both to format them. They both appear to format
ok, but one formats and one does not. I tried changing the code and
formatting again...same result. No errors, one of them just doesn't format
even though it says it does. There is really not much difference between the
files. What would cause one of them not to format and how can I work around
this?
__
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beta program  
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