# OLD versions of Toad (i.e. pre 10.x) **URL:** \ **Category:** Toad for Oracle & DevOps Toolkit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2011, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500 "2011-06-09T06:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bert\_Scalzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/bert_scalzo/32/274_2.png) [@Bert\_Scalzo](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/Bert_Scalzo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/1 "2011-06-09T06:49:58Z")
Since we’ve had quite a few questions recently from people using OLD versions of Toad I thought I’d send a picture to show just what that means. This picture represents a Toad 8.6 user hanging on to hugely misguided hopes that seven year old software will work today as well as the current version and with databases versions that were not available at that time. This user is probably still running Windows/Office 95 and an anti-virus program that is out of subscription and thus gets no virus definition updates. Good luck. Data is your company’s most valuable asset – it deserves the cost of staying current on your maintenance. If you think the job market is that good then by all means keeping on trying J ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/c/c116ab3269fc9bb94c56baf9bf2957362b21bb77.png) ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![steve.boothweenergie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@steve.boothweenergie](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/steve.boothweenergie)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/2 "2011-06-09T07:48:39Z")
But my 8.5.3.2 works just fine… (as he feverishly updates to 10.6.3.1)… And, I’m sorry, but I still like Office 2003 far better than 2010… and that’s not a joke. But my spiffy anti-virus is up to date. Nice picture (btw)… ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![JohnDorlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/johndorlon/32/9997_2.png) [@JohnDorlon](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/JohnDorlon)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/3 "2011-06-09T08:05:10Z")
Steve, I have you beat! I still have office 2000 on my laptop! ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![NormTeamT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/normteamt/32/53_2.png) [@NormTeamT](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/NormTeamT)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/4 "2011-06-09T08:13:15Z")
Sorry John, > > Steve, I have you beat! I still have office 2000 on my laptop! > > Office 97 here! Cheers, Norm. [TeamT] Information in this message may be confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify the sender immediately, delete it and do not copy it to anyone else. We have checked this email and its attachments for viruses. But you should still check any attachment before opening it. We may have to make this message and any reply to it public if asked to under the Freedom of Information Act, Data Protection Act or for litigation. Email messages and attachments sent to or from any Environment Agency address may also be accessed by someone other than the sender or recipient, for business purposes. If we have sent you information and you wish to use it please read our terms and conditions which you can get by calling us on 08708 506 506. Find out more about the Environment Agency at [www.environment-agency.gov.uk](http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk) ---
**Author:** ![Bert\_Scalzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/bert_scalzo/32/274_2.png) [@Bert\_Scalzo](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/Bert_Scalzo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/5 "2011-06-09T08:15:00Z")
The only way I finally upgraded to Office 2010 was to find a free add-on that gives me the old menus in addition to the new ribbon style interface because I cannot find thing is the ribbons since I know the menus so well. Without this add-in I’d be right there with you on 2003 being my fav J Read here for add-n: > **[Add Classic Menu In Office 2010](https://www.addictivetips.com/microsoft-office/add-classic-menu-in-office-2010/)** > > Microsoft introduced a brilliant UI ribbon in Office suite applications in Office 2007 and revamped it in Office 2010. It seems great, flexible, scalable a ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![HillbillyToad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/hillbillytoad/32/190_2.png) [@HillbillyToad](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/HillbillyToad)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/6 "2011-06-09T08:20:13Z")
The only thing I like about 2010 is the ability to see the effects on your selected text as you switch your different styles/fonts/etc I hope people upgrade their Toad b/c they want the new features and support for newer OS/RDMBS platforms, not b/c we ‘hate’ old software. ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Lerch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/mark_lerch/32/33_2.png) [@Mark\_Lerch](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/Mark_Lerch)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/7 "2011-06-09T09:00:26Z")
People have to understand the nature of this product, and most don’t. Because of its popularity and user base size it’s perceived as similar to other huge software products which come from an ivory tower once or twice a year, written by a massive, process-driven team. The opposite is true. This could be intuited if you examine our strengths, such as extremely high responsiveness and beta releases twice a week. With strengths come weaknesses. The best way for users to protect themselves against our weaknesses is to play to our strengths. In short - stay as current as possible. This is a problem for some of our very large customers. It’s expensive for them to roll out new versions. They need to understand the risks of not using maintenance to stay current. With this product, maintenance is vital, especially since it’s a database tool. I was asked by upper management recently, “what can be done to let our customers know how important maintenance is?” We’re a small, fast, nimble team. Understand what you’re getting. You can’t have the warm feelings of monolithic security you’d get with a product from Microsoft or Oracle and at the same time have one of your reported bugs fixed minutes after you log it and available in a beta the same day, sometimes built just for you. You can’t have both because we can’t do both. Our customer facing messaging has to reflect this honesty. ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![steve.boothweenergie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@steve.boothweenergie](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/steve.boothweenergie)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/8 "2011-06-09T09:45:27Z")
I understand that. Projects get prioritized by perceived need. I’ve wanted to upgrade our TOAD since 9.7.2.5 but other stuff trumped it. Our Windows 7 conversion has trumped the other stuff (it’s a huge hammer) and we’re in the process of installing the latest version. In the past I had to do most of the work to set things up. The process has changed and now my involvement with it is minimal… just testing it. Our corporation is very process-driven (and proud of it, or so I am told). No Beta Software allowed on our PCs. Steve… ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![Guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@Guest](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/Guest)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/9 "2011-06-09T10:15:42Z")
> Projects get prioritized by perceived need. I've wanted to upgrade our > TOAD since 9.7.2.5 but other stuff trumped it. As long as my power stays on, have at it, Steve! 😉 Rich -- [TeamT] Disclaimer: My power is very stable, but I really need to get a battery-powered sump pump, Just In Case ---
**Author:** ![Bert\_Scalzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/quest/user_avatar/forums.toadworld.com/bert_scalzo/32/274_2.png) [@Bert\_Scalzo](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/Bert_Scalzo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/10 "2011-06-09T10:46:27Z")
PS - Toad 9.7 is not certified for Windows 7 – neither is Oracle pre-11gR2 I believe – including the client (SQL Net) J ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![steve.boothweenergie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@steve.boothweenergie](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/steve.boothweenergie)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/11 "2011-06-09T10:58:20Z")
Yep, I was aware of that. I personally always like to go to the latest stable release. One of the items I lobbied for with our DBAs w/r/t Windows 7 rollout was an update of the Oracle client. They were not up to snuff and one of the Toad enhancements since 8.5.3.2 was a “DB Version to Client Version” check… made the upgrade a bit more problematic on the old boxes. ![image001.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/quest/original/2X/8/83ed6b39370fc025b141db3740e08cf861021c17.png) ---
**Author:** ![MGainty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MGainty](https://forums.toadworld.com/u/MGainty)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.toadworld.com/t/old-versions-of-toad-i-e-pre-10-x/10500/12 "2011-06-09T11:25:49Z")
on Win64 boxes: best to ugprade TOAD to 9.7 to 1)write to Application Data Folder and 2)run as Administrator [http://toadfororacle.com/thread.jspa?threadID=30199&start=15&tstart=0](http://toadfororacle.com/thread.jspa?threadID=30199&start=15&tstart=0) (thoughtfully copied from brad’s earlier post…thanks brad!) Martin * * * Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l’expéditeur. N’importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l’information seulement et n’aura pas n’importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni.