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One of the saddest things I've witnessed is a Tech school producing software
developers who don't even know the basics behind debugging their own code.

But since my AD is in "Data Processing", all the debugging we did was on
coding sheets and greenbar printout. Without pulling wires to individual
component pins, it don't get much more basic than that.

Except for RPG-II, which I refuse to acknowledge any further.

Then again, I still use a healthy dose of PUT_OUTPUT and capturing to a
table for my debugging. That probably explains a lot about me... :wink:

Rich -- [TeamT]

Disclaimer: First I'll access the secret military spy sattelite that is in
geosynchronous orbit over the midwest. Then I'll ID the limo by the vanity
plate "MR. BIGGG" and get his approximate position. Then I'll reposition
the transmission dish on the remote truck to 17.32 degrees east, hit WESTAR
4 over the Atlantic, bounce the signal back into the aerosphere up to COMSAT
6, beam it back to SATCOM 2 transmitter number 137 and down on the dish on
the back of Mr. Big's limo... It's almost too easy.

Actually I learned RPGII in programming school but never had to use it.

I am an old Cobol and Fortran programmer so we debugged using DISPLAY or WRITE statements. But I am under the impression that the new young crop coming out of school with visual basic or C or java would have been trained to use the debugging options of their GUI. So I am really surprised that none of them came to me and said ‘how do I use this Toad Debugging feature’.

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Unless there’s been a big change in the way they teach
programming/computer science in the last 15 years, they don’t teach folks
how to use an IDE, much less profiling, debugging, and tuning.

It’s all about OO and Arrays, Queues, algorithms, Binary Trees, 10
different ways to write sort algorithms – you know, the practical stuff J

They also don’t teach much of our industries history anymore –
neither the hardware nor the important people. So when I tell people I started
with cards writing Fortran 66 and that we no character variables – just
Hollerith constants – they look at me like I’m speaking gibberish L

They also don't teach much of our industries history anymore - neither the
hardware nor the important people. So when I tell people I started with
cards writing Fortran 66 and that we no character variables - just Hollerith
constants - they look at me like I'm speaking gibberish :frowning:

One of my instructors was a programmer at Bell Labs in Chicago in the 60s,
so the history of programming was near and dear to her heart.

Although I do admit needing to lookup "Hollerith constants" (not the man,
just the constant!). I wonder how we did Fortran on the 36-bit DECSYSTEM-20
if one needed to be painfully aware of word boundaries? Eeeewww...

Rich -- [TeamT]

Disclaimer: Old programmers don't die, they abend.

they don’t teach folks how to use an IDE

It’s all about OO and Arrays, Queues, algorithms,

Binary Trees, 10 different ways to write sort algorithms

I’m not sure if you were being facetious or answering from your knowledge
experience, but I’ll have to disagree in some cases. While it’s true
there are very good tech schools out there (M.I.T. is still up there along with
the University of Waterloo), it’s also true there are some very poor
schools/teachers available.

I had the unfortunate experience of having one of those teachers for my
“C++ For Windows” course. The individual didn’t
understand the first thing about what a pointer was. My thought when he
expressed that was “oh oh!”. I guess a more amusing thought would
have been “Danger Will Robinson”.

Additionally, my primary experience with most Java developers who focused on
Java in school has been the conclusion they were taught the IDE and very little
else. Keep in mind, I’m referring to that sub-section of the industry who
started their programming courses, went straight into Java Development and have
no experience with anything else.

My experience with those developers who moved to Java after working with
something else has been quite different in comparison. So… while I agree
there are those instructors/schools that teach various sort algorithms (having
had that myself) there are also the other.

Roger S.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Jeff Smith wrote:

We have a community for Toad for Cloud here –

http://toadforcloud.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1199

1)It’s Free!

Hi Jeff

Will Toad for Cloud also be free when out of beta-state? Will it be
affordable for a hobbyist/private person?

cheers Sven

Yes, I just double-checked. Freeware it is!

Jeff