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PK on MV script?


#1

I have lots of materialized views, and I routinely define a primary key on each.
(It ’ s a table; a table should have a primary key.)

I can ’ t find a way in TOAD to have it generate a complete script for
such an object. If I generate the script from the MV tab of the Schema Browser,
I can ’ t get the primary key (the most I can get is a CREATE UNIQUE
INDEX); if I generate the script from the Table tab, I get the primary key, but
of course I don ’ t get the MV query.

Is there a way?

Nate Schroeder

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Monsanto Company

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#2

As of now, there is now way to do this.

The problem is that if I create a table with a primary key, then make a MV as
‘select *’ from that table, the PK on the MV is generated
automatically.

If I can find a way to differentiate between an automatically generated and
manually generated PK, I can add support for this.


#3

Hmmm – interesting problem. I hadn ’ t thought of that.

You could, of course, ignore that problem and provide the option anyway . The
worst case then is that someone runs the generated script and gets an error
“ duplicate constraint name ” or “ this table already has a
primary key ” or some such when the Alter … Create … Primary
Key is executed.

Without that option, the worst case happens when we generate a script using
Toad, drop the object, recreate the object using the Toad-generated script, and
now have a different object than we started with – and there ’ s no
message of any sort to tell us that we don ’ t have what we started with.

Personally, I ’ m a fan of more information rather than less; so I ’
d rather have an error message when there isn ’ t a problem, than to have
no message when there is a problem. Others may look at it differently.

(Actually, wouldn ’ t the Create Unique Index that the script generator
generat es now, give an error just like a Create Primary Key would give, in the
case where Oracle automatically creates the PK? I tried to test this, but I
couldn ’ t persuade Oracle to create a primary key automatically. )

Nate Schroeder

US Seed & Trait Commercial IT - Data Management Team

Monsanto Company

800 N. Lindbergh Blvd. LC4D - Saint Louis, MO - 63167

314-694-2592


#4

Good point – an ‘object already exists’ error is not a big
deal, esp. if I make constraints optional in the script like indexes.

I just added a unique index to a table and it did not make any constraints.


#5

Good Afternoon;

If I’m not mistaken – and that’s a real possibility
considering my brain is telling me it should be vacation time – then
Oracle behaves as follows:

If you define a constraint indicating primary key or uniqueness, then an index
is automatically created. On definition of an index however, no constraint is
created.

It makes sense to me to behave that way… a constraint inherently indicates
an index should exist, but an index existing does not necessarily imply a
constraint. However… I have zero arguments why that should be that
way… not a surprise… it’s a good thing I’ve got an extra
long weekend coming up :wink:

Roger S.


#6

If I can find a way to differentiate between an automatically

generated and manually generated PK, I can add support for this.

You could use Oracle’s naming convention of SYS_% to identify manual vs
non-manual. Then it’d be up to the end-user not to use such a cryptic
naming convention :wink:

That’s actually not a bad idea. I just took a look at a table with a
generated constraint/index:

CREATE TABLE tmp_tab (tt_index NUMBER PRIMARY KEY, tt_value VARCHAR2(1));

Oracle auto-created a constraint and index. The names are:

Constraint: SYS_C00307868

Index: SYS_C00307868

So… if you find an index of Oracle’s naming convention and it has a
matching constraint… or… even when you specify a constraint name, a
matching named index is created. A possibility to consider if you haven’t
already :wink:

Roger S.


#7

I was playing with this some more…my first email was incorrect. Oracle
does not add PKs on MVs automatically, just because the underlying table has a
primary key.

So this should be easy.


#8

Arg! Dagnabbit! Ignore my prior email. My first one was correct. Roger, try
this. There’s no way to tell that the constraint on TEST_MV was created by
Oracle. Oracle even gives it a nice name. But, as Nate mentioned a while ago,
the worst thing that’s going to happen if I add the constraint DDL to the
script is an ‘object already exists’ error.

create table test ( col1 number , col2 number );

alter table test add constraint pk_test primary key ( col1 );

create materialized view test_mv as select * from test;

select * from user_constraints

where table_name in ( ‘TEST’ , ‘TEST_MV’ );


#9

Weird – Oracle is choosy about it! If you follow your script with

create materialized view test_2_mv as select * from test_mv ;

select * from user_constraints

where table_name in ( ‘TEST’ , ‘TEST_2_MV’ , ‘TEST_MV’ );

you see that Oracle does not automatically create a PK on test_2_mv, even though
it’s constructed almost identically to the way test_mv was constructed.
Maybe because test_2_mv is selecting from a table that is an MV, rather than
from a table that is not an MV??

Nate Schroeder

US Seed & Trait Commercial IT - Data Management Team

Monsanto Company

800 N. Lindbergh Blvd. LC4D - Saint Louis, MO - 63167

314-694-2592


#10

Huh. Yeah, that is weird. I don’t follow the logic on this one.


#11

Roger, try this.

Blah! Unfortunately I can’t test quite that far. As a lowly developer,
I’m not allowed to create a materialized view.

So… I’ll leave my 2 cents at the value it really was (.0002 cents)
as opposed to the value it was meant to be and curiously follow any further
discussion without being able to contribute :wink:

Roger S.


#12

Just got back in town from some travel. The issue that people were missing in
this discussion is:

if the materialized view uses primary keys (the default if a PK is defined
and it's a simple MV) then Oracle will create a primary key (named like the
original PK if possible).

if the materialized view uses rowid, then Oracle will create its own index
on rowid, but will not create a primary key.

If you’re in the second situation and you create a primary key, then it’s easy
to get in trouble. If any data comes along in a refresh that violates that PK
the refresh will just fail. And a complete refresh will fail and leave the MV
completely empty.

For both the Oracle-created and manual PK, be really careful about pointing an
FK at that primary key – you won’t be able to do a complete refresh because
that requires Oracle to empty the table which will violation your FK. Most
critically (I’ve done this), don’t have an FK pointing at your materialized view
that does a cascade delete.

Constraints on MV’s can be touchy.

– jim


#13

Those are good points. Fortunately, for me, these are the user’s concern
and not Toad’s. :slight_smile:

Constraint options will be on the MV tab on the export DDL dialog of the next
beta.


#14

Thanks, John!

Yes, James, you have some good points. Our MVs that have PKs are generally
refreshed by the following strategy: drop the PK; refresh the MV (complete
refresh, by the way, since the MVs pretty much all involve joins); and re-create
the PK. In most cases we’re guaranteed uniqueness of the PKs by virtue of
the PKs of the source tables; in the other cases, if our assumptions about data
uniqueness get violated, the MV is still refreshed and has the current data, and
only the “create PK” fails. And you’re right, I’d like
to be able to define referential integrity using these keys but I can’t.

Nate Schroeder

US Seed & Trait Commercial IT - Data Management Team

Monsanto Company

800 N. Lindbergh Blvd. LC4D - Saint Louis, MO - 63167

314-694-2592


#15

It is a thing of beauty! Many thanks.

… naturally, what is your reward for having done something good? Being
asked to do something else. The script now creates a unique index and a primary
key constraint. Can you add, as you currently have on the Tables option screen,
the “No constraint indexes” checkbox under “Indexes”?

Nate Schroeder

US Seed & Trait Commercial IT - Data Management Team

Monsanto Company

800 N. Lindbergh Blvd. LC4D - Saint Louis, MO - 63167

314-694-2592


#16

It’s never enough for you, is it Nate?? Just kidding.

OK, I’ll try to get that in for Monday’s beta. If not it’ll be
the one after that…


#17

An old Beetle Bailey comic strip, if I remember it right: Two characters
relaxing under a tree.

Character 1: What do you want out of life?

Character 2: Oh, I just want what the average American wants.

Character 1: What’s that?

Character 2: All he can get.

Nate Schroeder

US Seed & Trait Commercial IT - Data Management Team

Monsanto Company

800 N. Lindbergh Blvd. LC4D - Saint Louis, MO - 63167

314-694-2592


#18

An old Beetle Bailey comic strip, if I remember it right: Two characters
relaxing under a tree.

Character 1: What do you want out of life?

Character 2: Oh, I just want what the average American wants.

Character 1: What’s that?

Character 2: All he can get.

Nate Schroeder

US Seed & Trait Commercial IT - Data Management Team

Monsanto Company

800 N. Lindbergh Blvd. LC4D - Saint Louis, MO - 63167

314-694-2592


#19

Ok, next beta, it’ll be there.


#20

Thanks!

Nate Schroeder

US Seed & Trait Commercial IT - Data Management Team

Monsanto Company

800 N. Lindbergh Blvd. LC4D - Saint Louis, MO - 63167

314-694-2592