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The color of NULL


#1

Hmmmm… The title seems kind of philosophical. What is the color of NULL?

Anyway, is the color of the NULL cells in a data grid definable? The yellow
chosen by default is WAY bright, and quite obtrusive. A soft, quiet yellow would
seem much more appropriate.

Who chose this thing, anyways?

Thanks.


David A. Hicken
UtahToad at gmail dot com
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#2

It should be the absence of color, right? Like a black hole or something…


#3

Null can mean anything, so I would prefer some
Hula Dancing Girls or something like that :slight_smile:

2009/11/3 David A. Hicken

Hmmmm.... The title seems kind of philosophical. What is the color of NULL?

Anyway, is the color of the NULL cells in a data grid definable? The yellow
chosen by default is WAY bright, and quite obtrusive. A soft, quiet yellow
would seem much more appropriate.

Who chose this thing, anyways?

Thanks.

David A. Hicken
UtahToad at gmail dot com
There are two ways of meeting difficulties: you alter the difficulties, or you alter yourself to meet them.
– Phyllis Bottome


Regards, Met Vriendelijke Groeten

Rob Zijlstra

#4

But if black is all colors and white is none, shouldn’t null be white?
Then we would have to make the grid background gray so we could see the
nothingness.

Darlene R. Ulmet

Financial Analyst II

Decision Support Services

Baylor Health Care System

Phone: (214) 820-1936

Fax: (214)820-8284

Email: Darlene.Ulmet@BaylorHealth.edu


#5

I’d choose “transparent” for a null color. So you’d just
see whatever’s beyond your monitor.


#6

Ah, but Darlene, that’s only in pigments. In light, Black is the absence of
color and white is all of them.

Ah, color theory. The best way to confuse artists in multiple media.

(Personally, I like John Dorlan’s idea of choosing “transparent” for the NULL
color and seeing what’s behind your monitor!)

Gretchen Mueller

Technical Writer

Toad for Oracle


#7

Actually black is all colors and white is none… if you’re talking
paint, start talking light and its all different. Like I know
red+yellow=orange on a paint wheel but not sure what you mix to get an
orange light.


#8

Try new Orange Light. It’s Orange with only half the calories.


#9

check this out http://eosweb.larc.nasa.gov/EDDOCS/Wavelengths_for_Colors.html
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#10

Hey David,

Anyway, is the color of the NULL cells in a data grid definable? The yellow
chosen by default is WAY bright, and quite obtrusive. A soft, quiet yellow
would seem much more appropriate.

I remember this being a wishlist item from a ways back when it was first
implemented as an option. My request was alternating green and gold but the
request somehow got superseded by putrid pigtailed purple…but I’m not
bitter.

A great place to offer opinions on future enhancements to your Toad for
Oracle product is in the Beta Program at http://www.toadsoft.com/beta.html

Enjoy!

Rich – [TeamT]

Disclaimer: The Few. The Proud. The Beta.


#11

Morning David,

Anyway, is the colour of the NULL cells in a data grid
definable?

Sort of!

View->options
Select Data Grids/Visual on left side.

On the right side, in the Display group box, right at the bottom, you
see Null Columns.

The drop down offers {null}, yellow or blank. Mine is set to blank.

The yellow is a little bright, but not over the top - in my opinion - do
you have your monitor controls set for Brightness at 11 (Spinal Tap
reference) by any chance?

Cheers,
Norm. [TeamT]

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#12

Evening John,

I must have missed this one today due to the high level of work!

Try new Orange Light. It’s Orange with only half the calories.

First of all, may I congratulate you on lowering your sense of humour to
my own level. That was absolutely and unequivocally, bad! I loved it!

Second, it’s a joke that works here in the UK because when we have
“light” food, drink etc, it is spelt “light” unlike in your neck of the
woods where you save time, and typing, by using “lite”.

So, thanks for a UK oriented joke! :wink:

Cheers,
Norm. [TeamHavingAStrangeEvening]


#13

The only thing I know of in the US that is labeled “lite” is beer
(which says a lot about me)

And, quite honestly, most beers taste “lite” here in the US unlike
the great beers of the UK. J


#14

The only thing I know of in the US that is labeled “lite” is beer (which
says a lot about me)
And, quite honestly, most beers taste “lite” here in the US unlike the
great beers of the UK. :slight_smile:

Try Guinness. Seriously, look it up. It has less calories and fat than
most non-“lite” beers. It even has a lower specific gravity (directly
linked to the amount of alcohol produced from sugars in the fermentation)
than most, which accounts for it being on top of a Black’n’Tan, Half’n’Half
(my favorite), and the like.

I won’t even mention the lack of adjuncts and sweeteners, nor it’s higher
level of beneficial flavinoids, protein, and at least one of the Vitamin B
group (although I forget which).

Guinness – Quite possibly Nature’s most perfect food.

Rich – [TeamT]

Disclaimer: Toad and Guinness – two great tastes that taste great together.

Disdisclaimer: Erm, that should be clarified as “Toad for Oracle”…


#15

My personal favorite – but didn’t want to give that much credit to
Norm

It’s also great with Sprecher Amber ( Milwaukee made).


#16

It’s also great with Sprecher Amber ( Milwaukee made).

That is funny. I was just thinking the other day when I’m up in Chicago over
Christmas my wife has to go to Milwaukee for some work stuff so I was going to
tag along and hit the Sprecher Brewery and pick up a few cases. I like that fact
that you can build your own case of the many variety of flavors they make. Now
that is some good beer!

Ed

[TeamT]


#17

I don’t particularly care for beer, but now I might have to try a Guinness
just from Rich’s description, but more importantly – his
disclaimers.

Somebody needs to send him a Toad Tshirt or something just for the comic relief
he provides on an almost daily basis. You crack me up Rich.


#18

I don’t particularly care for beer, but now I might have to try a Guinness
just from Rich’s description, but more importantly - his disclaimers.

Somebody needs to send him a Toad Tshirt or something just for the comic
relief he provides on an almost daily basis. You crack me up Rich.

LOL – thanks for the props!

If you should try a Guinness, you’ll probably want to get a four pack of the
cans – I rarely suggest cans for any beer, but these have a nitrogen widget
inside that attempts to make it taste like a draught pint.

That’s the first thing. Also make sure you:

  1. Pour it in a glass. Don’t attempt to drink from that can.

  2. After opening, you’ll hear a “whoosh!” from the nitrogen widget inside,
    followed by a little gurgle. Wait a second or two until it’s done and foam
    starts coming out the top (usually, unless it’s too cold – like a red wine,
    it tastes better at slightly warmer temps than other “lighter” beers).

  3. Dump the beer quickly in a glass.

  4. Use a 20oz (“imperial pint”) glass or larger to allow you to just dump
    the beer in the glass at full-speed. It might be fun to try it in a
    Guinness-labeled imperial pint glass! They make great tumblers should this
    experiment not be to your liking.

  5. Watch the cool “cascade” as the bubbles sink to the bottom. Really!
    It’s been scientifically studied:
    http://www.fluent.com/about/news/pr/pr5.htm

  6. Enjoy!

You don’t like beer? This will be like no beer you’ve tasted. Think of it
as a chocolatey after-dinner sipping beverage instead of a 6-pack football
game slamming beer. It goes wonderfully with dark chocolate desserts! I’ve
even had my Guinness tainted with raspberry liquor – it tasted just like a
chocolate raspberry cheesecake.

Have some fun with it! It’s an experiment. If you don’t care for it, then
oh well, it cost you $8 or so.

Then send me the other 3 cans. :wink:

Enjoy!

Rich – [TeamT]


#19

I say we make TOAD the KING of (no, not beer, not even the king of beers, you
guys) of Application Development tools and in the TOAD King’s honor we all
grab a CROWN!

Darlene R. Ulmet

Financial Analyst II

Decision Support Services

Baylor Health Care System

Phone: (214) 820-1936

Fax: (214)820-8284

Email: Darlene.Ulmet@BaylorHealth.edu


#20

Morning Gerry,

My personal favorite - but didn’t want to give that much
credit to Norm

I wouldn’t worry. Norm doesn’t like the taste of beer or Whisky either!
:wink:

Cheers,
Norm.

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