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The end of (another) Toad era ....

I’ve just been informed that my current contract, which expires on
Friday 2nd September 2011 is not being renewed. The other contractors in
my current location are also not being renewed (so it wasn’t something I
said!).

To this end, I might be less visible on the Toad lists for a while.
Hopefully I’ll get a new contract in an enlightened establishment where
Toad is used - and on support!

Of course, I’ll still be lurking around and sticking my oar in where I
can! :wink:

Hopefully, I will not end up - as I did once before - in a place where I
was not allowed to use Toad for 18 months. Those were the worst days of
my working life!


Cheers,
Norm. [TeamT]

Norm!

To this end, I might be less visible on the Toad lists for a while.
Hopefully I’ll get a new contract in an enlightened establishment where
Toad is used - and on support!

Best of luck!

Of course, I’ll still be lurking around and sticking my oar in where I
can! :wink:

That reminds me that I need to schedule my annual physical exam. Thanks!

Hopefully, I will not end up - as I did once before - in a place where I
was not allowed to use Toad for 18 months. Those were the worst days of
my working life!

[shudder] It wasn’t 18 months, but I’ve been there, Man, I’ve been there.
Hopefully, you won’t be relegated to using – gasp, I can hardly type it –
SQueaL Duhveloper. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit…

If you need any references, well, point 'em to this list! I did that for my
current job. And they hired me anyway. And now we have me and my
dev/analysts all using Toad [insert evil Yosemite Sam laugh here].

GL again!

Rich – [Fellow TeamT]

Disclaimer: Just once I’d like to be called “Sir” without it being followed
by “You’re making a scene”.

Rich,

Best of luck!
Thanks.

That reminds me that I need to schedule my annual physical
exam. Thanks!
An image, I really didn’t want in my head! :wink:

[shudder] It wasn’t 18 months, but I’ve been there, Man,
I’ve been there.
It hurts, doesn’t it!

Hopefully, you won’t be relegated to using – gasp, I can
hardly type it –
SQueaL Duhveloper. I think I just threw up in my mouth a
little bit…
Nope, SQL*Plus first - if no Toad allowed.

If you need any references, well, point 'em to this list! I
did that for my current job. And they hired me anyway. And now we
have me and my

dev/analysts all using Toad [insert evil Yosemite Sam laugh here].
Indeed, my CV (I think) mentions that I’m a Toad MVP - so that’s a
start.

GL again!
Ta.

Cheers,
Norm.

Norman Dunbar
Contract Senior Oracle DBA
Capgemini Database Team (EA)
Internal : 7 28 2051
External : 0113 231 2051

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Best of luck Norm. Hope we see you back full time soon.

Don’t go off rioting in your spare time though.

Regards,
Brian Keegan
Oracle DBA
Farmers Insurance

Norman Dunbar

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I’ve just been informed that my current contract, which expires on
Friday 2nd September 2011 is not being renewed. The other contractors in
my current location are also not being renewed (so it wasn’t something I
said!).

To this end, I might be less visible on the Toad lists for a while.
Hopefully I’ll get a new contract in an enlightened establishment where
Toad is used - and on support!

Of course, I’ll still be lurking around and sticking my oar in where I
can! :wink:

Hopefully, I will not end up - as I did once before - in a place where I
was not allowed to use Toad for 18 months. Those were the worst days of
my working life!


Cheers,
Norm. [TeamT]

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Rich,

I’m curious, and a little frightened, to know what about “sticking an oar in” leads you to think of an annual physical. What the heck kind of doctor are you going to?

Best of luck Norm. Hope we see you back full time soon.
Thanks Brian, as I said I’ll be around, somewhere!

Don’t go off rioting in your spare time though.
Hmm. There’s a words to describe those people - morons.

Cheers,
Norm.

Norman Dunbar
Contract Senior Oracle DBA
Capgemini Database Team (EA)
Internal : 7 28 2051
External : 0113 231 2051

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Hey Chris,

I’m curious, and a little frightened, to know what about “sticking an oar
in” leads you to think of an annual physical. What the heck kind of doctor
are you going to?

He’s well-known in his field and even has an entry in Wikipedia:

Rich – [TeamT]

Disclaimer: And remember, if you’re not sure about something, rub it
against a piece of paper. If the paper turns clear, it’s your window to
weight gain.

Norm,

Well knowing you enough through out the years I know you won’t go to far
from the Toad board for to long.

With your talent I’m sure you will land something in no time.

If not there is nothing like a nice vacation. If the rioting gets to
much for you over there you can always come here. We are not rioting
here…yet.

Hopefully the new place will allow you to use Toad and maybe you will
even be lucky enough to be on the latest version. :slight_smile:

Good luck!

Ed
[TeamT]

On 8/11/2011 10:13 AM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

I’ve just been informed that my current contract, which expires on
Friday 2nd September 2011 is not being renewed. The other contractors in
my current location are also not being renewed (so it wasn’t something I
said!).

To this end, I might be less visible on the Toad lists for a while.
Hopefully I’ll get a new contract in an enlightened establishment where
Toad is used - and on support!

Of course, I’ll still be lurking around and sticking my oar in where I
can! :wink:

Hopefully, I will not end up - as I did once before - in a place where I
was not allowed to use Toad for 18 months. Those were the worst days of
my working life!

Hi Ed,

Well knowing you enough through out the years I know you won’t go to far
from the Toad board for to long.
Something to do during the long dark winter evenings? :wink:

With your talent I’m sure you will land something in no time.
Possibly, depends on who’s hiring I suppose.

If not there is nothing like a nice vacation. If the rioting gets to
much for you over there you can always come here. We are not rioting
here…yet.
It’s hugely embarrassing being a Brit at the moment! :frowning:

Hopefully the new place will allow you to use Toad and maybe you will
even be lucky enough to be on the latest version. :slight_smile:
That would be nice!

Good luck!
Thanks.


Cheers,
Norm.

What some folks won’t do to get out of a little mentoring. Hurry back! We
will miss you…hey, you can still come, you do have a computer at home,
right? J

Darlene R. Ulmet

Financial Analyst II

Revenue Cycle

Strategic Financial Planning and Analysis

Baylor Health Care System

Phone: (214) 820-1936

Fax: (214)820-8515

Email: Darlene.Ulmet@BaylorHealth.edu

“It is never too late to become what you might have been.”

George Eliott (Mary Ann “Marian” Evans Lewes Cross)

(1819-1880)

On 11/08/11 16:34, Ulmet, Darlene wrote:

What some folks won’t do to get out of a little mentoring. Hurry back!
I’ve not gone yet!

We will miss you…hey, you can still come, you do have a computer at
home, right? J
Yes, this very one. It travels around with me almost all the time! :wink:


Cheers,
Norm. [TeamT]

SQL*Plus first - if no Toad allowed

I hear that!

With Toad, as time wore on I used Toad more and SQL Plus less.

Unfortunately someone, in their wisdom, decided to decrease the use of Toad
here. And SQL Developer was selected as the replacement tool.

As time wore on, I used Toad more and SQL Plus less.

Now with the various … err … perks – yea, that’s the
right word – of SQL Developer, I find myself gravitating back to SQL Plus.

It could just be the learning curve part. I’m willing to keep that in
mind. But when SQL Developer doesn’t display a nested table structure any
differently then SQL Plus: Yuck! What’s the point of calling it a GUI? And
SQL Plus definitely runs a LOT faster.

Good luck on the new adventure Norm!

I won’t say bye as I have a sneaky suspicion you’ll still be around
to spar with once in a while – even if we do agree on just about
everything else :slight_smile:

Roger S.

Good luck Norm!

Maybe you should write a book about Toad??? Help them with documentation,
testing???

Chris

Maybe he should write a book about the Toadies! He could travel the world and
meet them all and mooch his way along until some smart company picks him up and
throws him back in front of a computer with a TOAD on it.

Darlene R. Ulmet

Financial Analyst II

Revenue Cycle

Strategic Financial Planning and Analysis

Baylor Health Care System

Phone: (214) 820-1936

Fax: (214)820-8515

Email: Darlene.Ulmet@BaylorHealth.edu

“It is never too late to become what you might have been.”

George Eliott (Mary Ann “Marian” Evans Lewes Cross)

(1819-1880)

Roger,

Good luck on the new adventure Norm!
Thanks.

I won’t say bye as I have a sneaky suspicion you’ll still be
around to spar with once in a while - even if we do agree on
just about everything else :slight_smile:
I seem to remember, we disagreed once, a long time ago. I think we
agreed to differ. I have the utmost respect for your opinions, after
all, I’m not an expert in everything! (Not even close to being an expert
actually!)

Cheers,
Norm.

Norman Dunbar
Contract Senior Oracle DBA
Capgemini Database Team (EA)
Internal : 7 28 2051
External : 0113 231 2051

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Chris,

Good luck Norm!
Thanks.

Maybe you should write a book about Toad??? Help them with
documentation, testing???
Hmmm. I do enough writing as it is, thanks. I was asked recently by
Packt Publishing to write a book on performance tuning Firebird 2.5
databases. I had to turn them down on the grounds of a lack of decent
knowledge, plus a severe lack of time. But it was nice to be asked!

Cheers,
Norm.

Norman Dunbar
Contract Senior Oracle DBA
Capgemini Database Team (EA)
Internal : 7 28 2051
External : 0113 231 2051

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Darlene,

Maybe he should write a book about the Toadies! He could
travel the world
Yuk! Travelling I mean - I hate it. Yes, I know, I’ve done plenty but
that’s my wife’s fault, she threatens to divorce me just before every
holiday! :wink:

and meet them all and mooch his way along
until some smart company picks him up and throws him back in
front of a computer with a TOAD on it.
I have, as they say, irons in the fire, even as I type…

Cheers,
Norm.

Norman Dunbar
Contract Senior Oracle DBA
Capgemini Database Team (EA)
Internal : 7 28 2051
External : 0113 231 2051

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While you interview prospective employers, the ‘do you have Toad’ question could or should be a deal-breaker?

Lots and lots of Oracle jobs out there, why not be picky?

While you interview prospective employers, the ‘do you have
Toad’ question could or should be a deal-breaker?

Lots and lots of Oracle jobs out there, why not be picky?
I like your thinking Jeff. :wink:

Cheers,
Norm. [TeamT]

Norman Dunbar
Contract Senior Oracle DBA
Capgemini Database Team (EA)
Internal : 7 28 2051
External : 0113 231 2051

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Best of luck in getting a great position, Norm.

By the way, this letter might be useful for you as you do your job search.
(I’d love to take credit for it, but I can’t)

Dear [Interviewer’s Name]:

Thank you for your letter of [Date of Interview]. After careful consideration I
regret to inform you that I am unable to accept your refusal to offer me
employment with your firm. This year I have had been particularly fortunate in
receiving an unusually large number of rejection letters. With such a varied and
promising field of candidates it is impossible for me to accept all refusals.

Despite [Firm’s Name]'s outstanding qualifications and previous experience in
rejecting applicants, I find that your rejection does not meet with my needs at
this time. Therefore, I will initiate employment with your firm immediately
following graduation. I look forward to seeing you then.

Best of luck in rejecting future candidates.

Sincerely,
[Your Name]