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Editor cursor position indicator in 12.7

I just upgraded to version 12.7. In the old version, in an editor window, the position indicator was shown at the top of the editor so that you could see you had moved the cursor to position 5, for example. In 12.7, this is no longer showing at the top of my editor windows, and I cannot find anywhere in the editor options that I can change this setting.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thank you.

The “ruler” is no longer available; however, you can see the caret column position in the status bar.

On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:29 PM, djumpeter bounce-djumpeter@toadworld.com wrote:

Editor cursor position indicator in 12.7

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I just upgraded to version 12.7. In the old version, in an editor window, the position indicator was shown at the top of the editor so that you could see you had moved the cursor to position 5, for example. In 12.7, this is no longer
showing at the top of my editor windows, and I cannot find anywhere in the editor options that I can change this setting.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thank you.

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Thank you!

On Jun 17, 2015 4:44 PM, “Michael Staszewski” bounce-mstaszew@toadworld.com wrote:

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The “ruler” is no longer available; however, you can see the caret column position in the status bar.

On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:29 PM, djumpeter bounce-djumpeter@toadworld.com wrote:

Editor cursor position indicator in 12.7

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I just upgraded to version 12.7. In the old version, in an editor window, the position indicator was shown at the top of the editor so that you could see you had moved the cursor to position 5, for example. In 12.7, this is no longer
showing at the top of my editor windows, and I cannot find anywhere in the editor options that I can change this setting.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thank you.

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Great post

Is that sarcasm?

On Jun 18, 2015 2:50 AM, “AndreaManess” bounce-AndreaManess@toadworld.com wrote:

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Great post

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I love the ruler and I have no idea why Dell has decided I don’t need it anymore. I recently upgraded to 12.7 and no ruler. I am not upgrading anymore. I am going to uninstall 12.7 and just stick with 12.6 for as long as possible. I am tired of Dell dropping functionality of this tool.

The edit control has been changed to one that is more actively developed. The old was practically dead with no updates for several years now. The ruler was a function of the old and the new does not have this capability. There are other features that are also
missing from the new that will be added back in time. In the meantime if you look to the lower-left of the editor (in the status bar) you’ll see the same information that was visible in the ruler. It’s just not as easy to visualize from a quick glance.

Michael

On 07/02/2015 01:36 PM, jhrod_609 wrote:

RE: Editor cursor position indicator in 12.7

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I love the ruler and I have no idea why Dell has decided I don’t need it anymore. I recently upgraded to 12.7 and no ruler. I am not upgrading anymore. I am going to uninstall 12.7 and just stick with 12.6 for as long as possible. I am tired of Dell
dropping functionality of this tool.

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Hi Michael,

I hope the old editor features will be back soon. I know several people who are not upgrading because of these changes, and some who upgraded but complaining on the changes.

I upgraded almost 3 weeks ago from 12.6. I like some of the changes to how editor works. For example Alt + Select now allows you to type or delete across multiple lines. BUT you cannot Alt + Select and convert the text to upper or lower case (Ctrl + U / Ctrl + L) the way you could before 12.7. This was a feature that I regularly used, I hope it will be added back.

The other thing that changed is how Ctrl + Del and Ctrl + Backspace work. I would like to see this work exactly like it did before 12.7.

I strictly format my queries and code. These small changes are significant to me - so much that I registered to Toad World just to voice these concerns.

Thanks for quick response.

For an example of how Ctrl + Del works, you can type this text - there are several space characters before “(”:
(,.,MMM

Then if you put the cursor at the beginning of the line and press Ctrl + Del it behaves differently in two version. In 12.6 it deletes till “(”. In 12.7 it deletes till “M”.

For a Ctrl + Backspace example, use this text:
SELECT * FROM dual;

SELECT * FROM dual;

If you put the cursor right before the second “SELECT” and hit Ctrl + Backspace, in 12.6 it will take you to the beginning of the third line, and in 12.7 all the way to the end of the first line.

Thanks,
Eldor

Not all differences are intended. The missing ruler is something I had expected, but the block select upper/lowercase issue is a bug. I’ll look at those today. The Ctrl+Del and Ctrl+Backspace appear to be functioning the same for me in 12.6 and 12.7. Can you provide sample text that shows the difference you’re seeing? Indicate where in the text your caret is placed as well.

Thanks,

Michael

On 07/06/2015 12:17 PM, eldor.turgunov wrote:

RE: Editor cursor position indicator in 12.7

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Hi Michael,

I hope the old editor features will be back soon. I know several people who are not upgrading because of these changes, and some who upgraded but complaining on the changes.

I upgraded almost 3 weeks ago from 12.6. I like some of the changes to how editor works. For example Alt + Select now allows you to type or delete across multiple lines. BUT you cannot Alt + Select and convert the text to upper or lower case (Ctrl + U / Ctrl + L) the way you could before 12.7. This was a feature that I regularly used, I hope it will be added back.

The other thing that changed is how Ctrl + Del and Ctrl + Backspace work. I would like to see this work exactly like it did before 12.7.

I strictly format my queries and code. These small changes are significant to me - so much that I registered to Toad World just to voice these concerns.

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The block select/case change issue is resolved for the next beta. I’m looking at the Ctrl+Del/Ctrl+Backspace next.

Michael

On 07/06/2015 12:51 PM, Eldor Turgunov wrote:

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Thanks for quick response.

For an example of how Ctrl + Del works, you can type this text - there are several space characters before “(”:

    (,.,MMM

Then if you put the cursor at the beginning of the line and press Ctrl + Del it behaves differently in two version. In 12.6 it deletes till “(”. In 12.7 it deletes till “M”.

For a Ctrl + Backspace example, use this text:

SELECT * FROM dual;



SELECT * FROM dual;

If you put the cursor right before the second “SELECT” and hit Ctrl + Backspace, in 12.6 it will take you to the beginning of the third line, and in 12.7 all the way to the end of the first line.

Thanks,

Eldor

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The 12.7 notes say that option was removed. Is there a work around for it? It is so helpful when formatting your code. This option really needs to be returned if that functionality can’t be replicated.

Never mind. I didn’t see the replies until I added a reply. Sucks it was removed. Add it back please.

For now this is gone. The edit control has been changed and the new does not have this feature at this time. Here are some possible uses for the ruler and the appropriate workaround.

  1. Seeing caret position

Workaround: Look in the status bar. The caret’s line and column are indicated at far left.

  1. Avoiding long lines that exceed a certain length.

Workaround: Look in the status bar or use one of the options for showing long lines. On the Editor|Display tab there’s a groupbox for “Edge.” Set that dropdown to “Line” which shows a permanent, vertical line at the column position or “Background” which shows nothing until a line exceeds column position and then the background color is changed to highlight the excess. The color of the line/background can be changed on the Editor|Font and Styling options page. See the “Edge” style on the Global styling tab.

  1. Formatting code

Workaround: Set your tab options and formatter options as needed, in particular the tab stops and formatter indent size. On the Editor|Display tab enable the “Show indentation guides” option. Vertical lines are shown at tab stops. I also find that the “Show whitespace” option is helpful to count spaces in between tab stops.

If your usage differs then let me know exactly how you were using it and there may be something we can do or some option to resolve it.

Thanks,

Michael

Just a note to say I’d also like to have the ruler back. In the meantime, thanks for the suggested workarounds.

Me too!!! I put a comment about this several weeks ago myself and received many comments in agreement.

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Just a note to say I’d also like to have the ruler back. In the meantime, thanks for the suggested workarounds.

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